How to Schedule MSDE Backup

Hi guys,
I have an application that runs on MSDE. I need to back up the database on a
dialy basis. The backup file gets written to this folder (C:\backup) and
then I have found a backup software that will automatically write it to a
DVD+RW, overwriting the previous backup file.
To make the schedule easy I will use 31 DVD+RWs, one for each day of the
month. That way I will always have at least a month worth of backups.
I was hoping that somebody could help me with a small SQL script that will
backup my database from Monday thru Saturday, automatically. Also it'd be
great if the backup file would contain a name and the date of that day.
Thanks a lot for your help.
Hi,
MSDE will not come with GUI. So u have to use SQLMAINT.exe. See the below
URL for more info.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...maint_19ix.asp
Thanks
Hari
SQL Server MVP
"Tom Bombadill" <Genius_poster@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%23D3lQ7zsFHA.2792@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi guys,
> I have an application that runs on MSDE. I need to back up the database on
> a dialy basis. The backup file gets written to this folder (C:\backup) and
> then I have found a backup software that will automatically write it to a
> DVD+RW, overwriting the previous backup file.
> To make the schedule easy I will use 31 DVD+RWs, one for each day of the
> month. That way I will always have at least a month worth of backups.
> I was hoping that somebody could help me with a small SQL script that will
> backup my database from Monday thru Saturday, automatically. Also it'd be
> great if the backup file would contain a name and the date of that day.
> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
|||Hi Hari,
Thanks for your attempt to help me. Unfortunately for your suggestion to
work, I have to install SP3a and for some reason I cannot successfully apply
that. I constantly get the "The instance name specified is invalid" error,
even though I did not specify an instance name and there's only one
installaiton of MSDE on my machine.
What do you suggest?
|||hi Tom,
Tom Bombadill wrote:
> Hi Hari,
> Thanks for your attempt to help me. Unfortunately for your suggestion
> to work, I have to install SP3a and for some reason I cannot
> successfully apply that. I constantly get the "The instance name
> specified is invalid" error, even though I did not specify an
> instance name and there's only one installaiton of MSDE on my machine.
> What do you suggest?
you can have a look at a free prj of mine, at the link following my sign,
qhich implements a UI similar to Enterprise Manager where you can define a
SQL Server job to backup your db and of course define your schedules as
desired...
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.15.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.60.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply
|||>
> you can have a look at a free prj of mine, at the link following my
> sign, qhich implements a UI similar to Enterprise Manager where you
> can define a SQL Server job to backup your db and of course define
> your schedules as desired...
alternatively, you can prepare a cmd file like
<-->
OSQL -Usa -Pyour_pwd -Q"BACKUP DATABASE pubs TO DISK = 'C:\Pubs.bak' WITH
INIT" >c:\err.txt
<-->
and schedule it via standard OS AT or SCHTASKS, the native Win scheduler...
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.15.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.60.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply
|||Andrea,
You're an angel, thanks a lot!
I downloaded your interface and installed it. I scheduled a backup and will
be testing this thoroughly.
A couple of questions re the interface if you don't mind:
1- I don't want to accumulate backups to the same file, since I will be
taking a fresh full backup on a separate DVD+RW everyday. How do I make sure
the backups do not keep appending to the same file day after day? Do I do
that just by leaving the ADD box unchecked, in the backup properties?
2- How can make it so that the backup file contains the day of the backup?
Thanks again,
|||hi Tom,
Tom Bombadill wrote:
> Andrea,
> You're an angel, thanks a lot!
you are wellcome.. thank you :D

> I downloaded your interface and installed it. I scheduled a backup
> and will be testing this thoroughly.
> A couple of questions re the interface if you don't mind:
> 1- I don't want to accumulate backups to the same file, since I will
> be taking a fresh full backup on a separate DVD+RW everyday. How do I
> make sure the backups do not keep appending to the same file day
> after day? Do I do that just by leaving the ADD box unchecked, in the
> backup properties?
leaving the "add to media" check box unchecked will add the "WITH INIT"
statement to the full backup statement, so that every backup set will be
initialized..

> 2- How can make it so that the backup file contains the day of the
> backup?
can you please expand on this? I'm sorry but I did not understand your
requirement..
and for DbaMgr2k related questions please feel free to contact me directly,
in order not to be OT on this public microsoft NG...
thank you
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.15.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.60.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply
|||Hi Andrea,
[vbcol=seagreen]
What I mean by that is to have the backup file name include the date the
backup was performed. I'll give you an example:
For today, it would be called "SJDB 09072005.bak"
For tomorrow, "SJDB 09082005.bak"
For the day after tomorrow, "SJDB 09092005.bak"
And so on...
I hope that makes sense!
Andrea, once again thank you for your service to the community and sharing
your hard work with others.
|||Also Andrea,
Do you know how long it would take for a full backup to run for a full size
MSDE database (2048 MB)?
I ask because I wanted to know how much time to allocate before I schedule
the copy of the backup file to DVD.
Thanks again,
|||hi Tom,
Tom Bombadill wrote:
> Hi Andrea,
>
> What I mean by that is to have the backup file name include the date
> the backup was performed. I'll give you an example:
> For today, it would be called "SJDB 09072005.bak"
> For tomorrow, "SJDB 09082005.bak"
> For the day after tomorrow, "SJDB 09092005.bak"
> And so on...
> I hope that makes sense!

ok, you have to "edit" the backup statement of the generated job's step ...
assuming you are backing up pubs database to C:\ (replace C:\ with the
existing folder you want to backup to), you can provide the file name to
include the current date casting (
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ca-co_2f3o.asp )
GETDATE() function result as required..
the final statement will look like:
DECLARE @.FileName nvarchar(25)
SET @.FileName = 'C:\' + 'pubs ' + CONVERT(varchar(10) , GETDATE() , 110 ) +
'.bak'
BACKUP DATABASE [pubs] TO DISK = @.FileName WITH INIT ,
NOUNLOAD ,
NAME = N'pubs BackUp',
NOSKIP ,
STATS = 10,
NOFORMAT
as regard your date format, I'd prefer the standard ISO format, thats to say
YYYYMMDD (CONVERT using 112 style), as this data format , 20050908 (for
today) is more readable and sorts better then 09082005..
you can go further, in the "advanced tab", and specify you want to "output"
the result of the execution (like standard messages and/or errors, if any)
to a text file.. if you want to, specify a file name (a text file) in the
"Transact-SQL script command options" ->output file
this will output, in case of success, something like
<-->
Job 'BackUp DB ['pubs'] - #08/09/2005 12.25.12#' : Step 1, 'BackUp DB
['pubs']' : Began Executing 2005-09-08 12:37:16
53 percent backed up. [SQLSTATE 01000]
99 percent backed up. [SQLSTATE 01000]
Processed 224 pages for database 'pubs', file 'pubs' on file 1. [SQLSTATE
01000]
100 percent backed up. [SQLSTATE 01000]
Processed 1 pages for database 'pubs', file 'pubs_log' on file 1. [SQLSTATE
01000]
BACKUP DATABASE successfully processed 225 pages in 0.242 seconds (7.586
MB/sec). [SQLSTATE 01000]
<-->
or the problem found, if any, you can inspect...
Andrea Montanari (Microsoft MVP - SQL Server)
http://www.asql.biz/DbaMgr.shtmhttp://italy.mvps.org
DbaMgr2k ver 0.15.0 - DbaMgr ver 0.60.0
(my vb6+sql-dmo little try to provide MS MSDE 1.0 and MSDE 2000 a visual
interface)
-- remove DMO to reply

How to run my Curser more faster?

I have a stored procedure written for number of updates, inserts to the
database. This stored procedure takes too long to run. I have created few
indexes around few tables, but the response time is not that defferent.
THere is a Curser "CURSOR FAST_FORWARD FOR" in the stored procedure, and
another stored procedure is called within this Curser. I found that lot of
time been taken to run this Curser. So I want to run/make it faster the
curser. So how should I improve the Curser to run more faster
I would greatly appreciate anyone's idea or suggesions.
thanks
raj
"raj" <raj@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:618E892D-9327-41F8-8160-3E84EE32303A@.microsoft.com...
> I have a stored procedure written for number of updates, inserts to the
> database. This stored procedure takes too long to run. I have created few
> indexes around few tables, but the response time is not that defferent.
> THere is a Curser "CURSOR FAST_FORWARD FOR" in the stored procedure, and
> another stored procedure is called within this Curser. I found that lot of
> time been taken to run this Curser. So I want to run/make it faster the
> curser. So how should I improve the Curser to run more faster
> I would greatly appreciate anyone's idea or suggesions.
Best Advice: Eliminate the Cursor.
But, without a DDL and some sample table folks here won't be able to help
you with that.
So, if you can, post your DDL and some data and see what folks can do.

> thanks
> raj
|||this is the part of the query takes too long to run
BEGIN
DECLARE CustCursor CURSOR FAST_FORWARD FOR
SELECT DISTINCT D.CustID FROM tblInv D INNER JOIN #Invoice I ON D.InvID =
I.InvID
OPEN CustCursor
FETCH NEXT FROM CustCursor INTO @.CustID
WHILE (@.@.FETCH_STATUS <> -1)
BEGIN
EXEC sp_UpdateDunning @.CustID
IF @.@.Error <> 0
BEGIN
CLOSE CustCursor
DEALLOCATE CustCursor
ROLLBACK
RAISERROR('Error executing - > sp_UpdateDunning.', 16, 1)
RETURN
END
FETCH NEXT FROM CustCursor INTO @.CustID
END
CLOSE CustCursor
DEALLOCATE CustCursor
END
All the tables involved in this curser, indexes have been created.
raj
"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote:

> "raj" <raj@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:618E892D-9327-41F8-8160-3E84EE32303A@.microsoft.com...
> Best Advice: Eliminate the Cursor.
> But, without a DDL and some sample table folks here won't be able to help
> you with that.
> So, if you can, post your DDL and some data and see what folks can do.
>
>
>
|||The following approach would sacrify the transactional
opertion on the batch, but is likely the fast.
-- ===============
-- Run the script at QA
-- ===============
declare @.CustID int, @.cmd varchar(255)
delcare tmp_cur cursor for
select distinct D.CustID
from tblInv D inner join #Invoice I
on D.InvID = I.InvID
open tmp_cur
fetch next from tmp_cur into @.CustID
while @.@.fetch_status = 0
begin
select @.cmd = 'exec sp_UpdateDunning ' + convert
(varchar, @.CustID)
print @.cmd
print 'go'
fetch next from tmp_cur into @.CustID
end
close tmp_cur
deallocate tmp_cur
-- ===============
-- Run the result of script at QA
-- ===============
For example:
exec sp_UpdateDunning 1
go
exec sp_UpdateDunning 2
go
...
^^
Regards,
Alfred

>--Original Message--
>this is the part of the query takes too long to run
>----
>BEGIN
>DECLARE CustCursor CURSOR FAST_FORWARD FOR
>SELECT DISTINCT D.CustID FROM tblInv D
INNER JOIN #Invoice I ON D.InvID =
>I.InvID
>OPEN CustCursor
>FETCH NEXT FROM CustCursor INTO @.CustID
>WHILE (@.@.FETCH_STATUS <> -1)
>BEGIN
>EXEC sp_UpdateDunning @.CustID
>IF @.@.Error <> 0
>BEGIN
>CLOSE CustCursor
>DEALLOCATE CustCursor
>ROLLBACK
>RAISERROR('Error executing - >
sp_UpdateDunning.', 16, 1)
>RETURN
>END
>FETCH NEXT FROM CustCursor INTO @.CustID

>END
>CLOSE CustCursor
>DEALLOCATE CustCursor
>END
>----
--
>All the tables involved in this curser, indexes have been
created.[vbcol=seagreen]
>raj
>
>"Greg D. Moore (Strider)" wrote:
3E84EE32303A@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
updates, inserts to the[vbcol=seagreen]
run. I have created few[vbcol=seagreen]
not that defferent.[vbcol=seagreen]
stored procedure, and[vbcol=seagreen]
Curser. I found that lot of[vbcol=seagreen]
run/make it faster the[vbcol=seagreen]
more faster[vbcol=seagreen]
suggesions.[vbcol=seagreen]
won't be able to help[vbcol=seagreen]
what folks can do.
>.
>

How to run a .sql file in SQL Server 2005 Express Edition.

Hi All,

I have a .sql file withall my queries written in it. Now I want to know, Is it possible to runthis sql file in SQL Server 2005 Express Edition like we can do inOracle? If it is possible then tell me how to do it?

Thanx in advance for any kind of help.

Regards,
Paramhans Dubey.

You can use sqlcmd utility.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms165702.aspx

|||If you've got SQL Server Management Studio (or the Express version which is a free download from Microsoft), then you can use the GUI to open the .sql script in a query window and execute the contents - its all point-and-click.

How to return a range of rows?

How can a SQL statement be written to return a specified range of
rows? For example:

-- tblContact
-- (
-- SSN char(9),
-- FirstName varchar(50),
-- LastName varchar(50)
-- )
-- This table contains 500 rows.

Select * from tblContact -- Return only rows 5 through 10

Thanks"Briniken" <briniken@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:68dae6d3.0311012131.6f9faf26@.posting.google.c om...
> How can a SQL statement be written to return a specified range of
> rows? For example:
> -- tblContact
> -- (
> -- SSN char(9),
> -- FirstName varchar(50),
> -- LastName varchar(50)
> -- )
> -- This table contains 500 rows.
> Select * from tblContact -- Return only rows 5 through 10
> Thanks

Data in tables doesn't have any order, so you have to decide how to say
which are the 'first' 10 rows. Assuming that you want rows 5 to 10 when
ordered by LastName, then this is one possible solution:

select top 5 * from
(
select top 10 *
from tblContact
order by LastName asc) dt
order by LastName desc

Alternatively, you can look at the first example in this KB article:

http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...kb;en-us;186133

If you add "having count(*) between 5 and 10" to the query, you should also
get the results you want.

Simon|||Hi

There is not equivalent of a row number in SQL Server, therefore you need to
be able to order the values, but something like

SELECT TOP 5 SSN. FirstName, LastName FROM
( SELECT TOP 10 SSN. FirstName, LastName FROM tblContact ORDER BY SSN ASC )
A
ORDER BY SSN DESC

Will give you the rows, but not in order!

Also check out the solution in the following thread
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...Newsposts%2BTOP

John

"Briniken" <briniken@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:68dae6d3.0311012131.6f9faf26@.posting.google.c om...
> How can a SQL statement be written to return a specified range of
> rows? For example:
> -- tblContact
> -- (
> -- SSN char(9),
> -- FirstName varchar(50),
> -- LastName varchar(50)
> -- )
> -- This table contains 500 rows.
> Select * from tblContact -- Return only rows 5 through 10
> Thanks

How to retrieve large string from stored procedure?

Hello! This is my scenario...

Development - Visual Studio 2005
Database - MS SQL 2005

I have written a stored procedure that has a output parameter whose type is NVARCHAR(MAX). Then I use C# to wrap this stored procedure in OLEDB way. That means the OleDbType for that parameter is VarWChar.

This works fine if the string size is less than 4000. If more than 4000, the remaining part will be chopped off. The situation gets worst if I replace VarWChar with LongVarWChar. There is no error nor warning at compiling time. But there is an exception at run time.

So... Does anyone here can help me out? Thanks in advance.
Have you tried using a C# string datatype?|||Hello! Thanks for the reply. But for do you mean C# string data type here? Hmm... Let me show some codes here to clarify the question. :-)

OleDbParameter prm_Xml = new OleDbParameter("@.Xml", OleDbType.VarWChar, -1);

prm_Xml.Direction = ParameterDirection.Output;

OleDbParameter's constructor needs a OleDbType enumerator for second parameter. VarWChar has a limitation for 4K characters. If I change that to LongVarWchar, then will have a runtime error...
|||

Take a look at this link - http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/a1904w6t(VS.80).aspx

Hope this helps

|||Raj, thanks for your prompt reply. Sorry for the late reply.

The link you sent does give me a clear picture of how to store and retrieve data that larger than 8K. But I still wonder whether there is a way to get the data as a output parameter of a stored procedure in OLEDB way.
|||

I think there is an example in the link that uses stored procedure with output parameter and gives VB/C# sample to retrieve it - Was that not helpful?

Take a look at - http://www.dotnet247.com/247reference/a.aspx?u=http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=317016 and

http://www.dotnet247.com/247reference/a.aspx?u=http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_308049.aspx

Hope this helps

How to retrieve large string from stored procedure?

Hello! This is my scenario...

Development - Visual Studio 2005
Database - MS SQL 2005

I have written a stored procedure that has a output parameter whose type is NVARCHAR(MAX). Then I use C# to wrap this stored procedure in OLEDB way. That means the OleDbType for that parameter is VarWChar.

This works fine if the string size is less than 4000. If more than 4000, the remaining part will be chopped off. The situation gets worst if I replace VarWChar with LongVarWChar. There is no error nor warning at compiling time. But there is an exception at run time.

So... Does anyone here can help me out? Thanks in advance.
Have you tried using a C# string datatype?|||Hello! Thanks for the reply. But for do you mean C# string data type here? Hmm... Let me show some codes here to clarify the question. :-)

OleDbParameter prm_Xml = new OleDbParameter("@.Xml", OleDbType.VarWChar, -1);

prm_Xml.Direction = ParameterDirection.Output;

OleDbParameter's constructor needs a OleDbType enumerator for second parameter. VarWChar has a limitation for 4K characters. If I change that to LongVarWchar, then will have a runtime error...
|||

Take a look at this link - http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/a1904w6t(VS.80).aspx

Hope this helps

|||Raj, thanks for your prompt reply. Sorry for the late reply.

The link you sent does give me a clear picture of how to store and retrieve data that larger than 8K. But I still wonder whether there is a way to get the data as a output parameter of a stored procedure in OLEDB way.
|||

I think there is an example in the link that uses stored procedure with output parameter and gives VB/C# sample to retrieve it - Was that not helpful?

Take a look at - http://www.dotnet247.com/247reference/a.aspx?u=http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=317016 and

http://www.dotnet247.com/247reference/a.aspx?u=http://www.kbalertz.com/Feedback_308049.aspx

Hope this helps